'Our batsmen play Tests like ODIs and ODIs like Tests'
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KARACHI: Former cricketers and fans Tuesday lamented Pakistan's woeful batting performance in their Champions Trophy defeat to South Africa which left them on the point of crashing out of the tournament.
Pakistan were bowled out for 167 in their crucial clash at Birmingham's Edgbaston ground, chasing a modest 234 against a weakened South African bowling attack missing the injured Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel.
Only captain Misbah-ul Haq (55) and Nasir Jamshed (42) crossed double figures, while top order batsmen Imran Farhat (four runs in two matches), Mohammad Hafeez (11), Shoaib Malik (nought and eight) and Kamran Akmal (two and nought) flopped miserably.
Pakistan's chances of reaching the semi-final now hang by a thread. They must beat arch-rivals India in their last group game on Saturday and hope other results go their way.
Former captain Zaheer Abbas told AFP the side's failings with the bat were all too familiar and urged the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to come up with a proper strategy to address the problem.
He said the batsmen looked nervous both against South Africa and in the first game against the West Indies, when they were skittled out for 170 inside their 50 overs.
“I don't know why our batsmen were in awe of the West Indian and South African bowlers, why fear set in is unfathomable,” said Abbas, once dubbed the “Asian Bradman” for his prowess at the crease.
“Our batsmen play Tests like one-day and one-day like Tests,” said Abbas.
“We have to change the attitude of our batsmen and for that we need to have a good and able batting coach. Batsmen get out but they should be taught to fight.”
Former spinner Tauseef Ahmed said the batsmen lacked guts.
“We are now used to of defeats, used to batting failures because this has been going on for quite some time now,” said Ahmed. “Batsmen not performing at international level is disappointing.”Fans on the street were left shattered.
“Our batsmen let us down, but this has been going on,” said Saqib Murad, a student in Karachi. “We must do something otherwise people will lose interest in the game.”
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Jun 11, 2013 05:22pm
Cricket is one of the very few things that Unify the widely disintegrated nation of Pakistan. I don't know why despite knowing what the outcome of the match would be i am always glued to the screen whenever Green shirts play. In a tournament like ICC champions trophy there is really no excuse to have played like a bunch of girls with no knowledge of cricket. I mean, seriously, 50 runs in 20 overs? is that an international team. I hope the pakistani teams regains its strength and confidence and plays well again, It's one of the few things that pakistanis, esp people like me, who live abroad, have to look forward to for SOME GOOD NEWS.
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Jun 11, 2013 05:39pm
Problem is this State of Pakistan, where this pathetic attitude is "My guy is the best guy". Ten out of eleven players were from this State causing misery to everyone including their own State
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Jun 11, 2013 06:34pm
KICK ALL THESE SO CALL BATSMAN OUT AND LET THEM IMPROVE RESTART IN DOMESTIC JUCT KEEP MISBAH, NASIR JAMSHED, AND THEN RESTART WITH NEW FACES ANG GIVE THEM ATLEAST 10 MATCHES TO SHOW THERE TALENT, IF THEN DON'T PERFORM THEN THE NEXT LINE AND THE NEXT, WE HAVE SO MUCH TALENT AND PLAYERS IN PAKISTAN BUT WE HAVE TO AKMAL, IMRAN FARHATM SHOIB?
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Jun 11, 2013 06:35pm
Forget about playing, they did not play at all, they played like a high school kids. Team manager and coaches should and must be held responsible for the collapse. were these guys selected based on their performances OR FAVOR to some politician? in my opinion selection process is flawed and corrupt as well.
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Jun 11, 2013 06:52pm
Imran Farhat ,Shoaib Malik (the choice of the Zardari ?).Kamran Akmal. Must must have to go . Make room for the new blood . We had enough of them .No body can stand them .Umar Akmal should be give one more final chance and that it . Horrible Horrible performance ,disgusting by the batsman. We need a batting coach please .(Inzimamul Haq) is the first choice . NO foreigner no batting 10 or 15 days camps .Permanent hire who accompanies the team every where .Very Critical .
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Jun 11, 2013 06:57pm
The main cause of poor performance is the wrong team selection.can PCB justify the selection of Malik,Hafeez and Amin instead of younus,razak and Hamad Aza.As long as favouritism prevaiis in PCB such defeats will continue.
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Jun 11, 2013 07:04pm
I blame the Britishers for this. They divided the Indo-Pak such way that all the batsmen went to India and the bowlers came to Pakistan.
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Jun 11, 2013 07:29pm
@ndean:
Please don't insult high school kids.
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Jun 11, 2013 08:00pm
Well - Coaching won't help them because they all came on Parchi. How can you expect a good result if you do not select cricketers on merit. Kamaran brothers is very good example. In whole country we could not find a batsmen and these 3 brothers are so talented, that we are keeping them in the team. Utter non sence.
We need top 5 new batsmen - who knows cricket and have beleive on themselves.
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Jun 11, 2013 08:53pm
One of the Major reason for debacle is lack of international cricket, dirty politics, players atitude just like afridi. result is in front of you.
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Jun 11, 2013 08:58pm
I wrote before in my comment regarding Pakistan team came true.This Pakistani coach, new batting coach and team captain had no planning and preparation for championship trophy. If you look last 12 matches, we did not perform well in batting. Despite that we have no full time batting coach. We are mostly depending upon foreigners. They did not produce any result because they have communication problem and they are not stric on players. I am seeing selection of same players despite repeated failures. We want coach like Mohshin khan who is knowledgable and strict decepilinor. During his tenure there no room for non performer.
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Jun 11, 2013 09:03pm
@SHAHZAD:
Also make sure they DONT GET PAID - if they don't perform. What a Sham this has been,
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Jun 11, 2013 09:07pm
Well said...They do play Test like ODI and ODI like Test. Surprisingly, they are not good at either game formats. I don't understand what happens to our batting order when one wicket falls all of them fall. If one top order batsman sticks around for a while then they have a little hope, sometimes. Middle order just fails miserably! Poor bowlers have no idea how to bat and sometimes they just start hitting and become match winners but during crucial moments they also fail to even rotate batsmen by just being a little safe. I think all players should first go through General Ethics training, basic batting techniques, PATIENCE, and being humble if they succeed!
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Jun 11, 2013 09:14pm
I am not gonna bother watching the match against India. I would rather do something fun, than watch Pakistan fail again.
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Jun 11, 2013 09:24pm
Why are we so surprised with this bismal performance. This was written in the wall already. Tried and Tried failures like Farhat, Shoaib and Kamran continue to re-appear no matter what. The team actually was playing with 8 players. Then recalling from memory, bating failure is not a new phenomenon for Pakistan but we use to have Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar and Amir. Who would turn the table on our side even in pathetic batting situations. Now we don't have those guys. Though bowling isn't so bad, it is still not as threatening as in old days. People like Miandad, Imran, Aktar, Wasim and Waqar have set the expectations too high for a team that is now half-filled with mediocre level players.
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Jun 11, 2013 09:41pm
What's the point of having Quaid e Azam trophy and all these domestic circle matches & still picking up these same faces that are not performing for the last 4 years n all may be more then that !!!! Our main problem is these third class players are playing cricket just for the money one example is that " when shoaib bowled out yesterday he was laughing at the situation" well for me it seems for him it just a regular match. Mr Iqbal Qasim this is the ICC Champions Trophy why did you send these new so called fresh faces as you have mentioned that these players will perform well ? Where is Younis Khan & Mohammed Yousuf ? Why Why ? All you board members and players wants to have money in your pocket and at the end of the day cause of your actions our nation has to go through these boos all over the world !!!
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Jun 11, 2013 09:48pm
Misbah's batting was one of the few bright spots in this otherwise dismal match but his Captaincy was well below the standard.
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Jun 11, 2013 09:53pm
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Jun 11, 2013 10:07pm
There is always a silver lining after every dark cloud. Hopefully now, Imran Farhat, Hafeez, Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal will be dropped for ever. They should not keep on bringing back the same useless junk who are only tigers on home grounds.
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Jun 11, 2013 10:19pm
I think both fans and PCB selectors are correct to some extent in their criticism and justification thereon but as a fan who woke up at mid night to watch my team play and play like pathetic kittens while batting and like lions while bowling, this is too much to accept the PCB excuses.
Firstly, I think there is some truth in the fact that our domestic cricket has not produced a batsman capable of being performing consistently on international level for long now. Younis and Misbah, both may be less talented than Yousuf and Inzi yet their hardwork and dedication has seen them reached the heights they deserve and with these two approaching the career ends, there does not seems to be light in tunnel? or is it so?
Starting from openers,
Past: as fans we still droll over the elegance and style of Saeed Anwar duly backed by its consistent application on international level , even Aamir Sohail who not as gifted as saeed, with his grit and aggression often made up for his lack of talent.
Current: The closest we got in recent years includes one who betrayed his nation and still in denial of his wrongdoings (shame on him) and the other (Nasir Jamshed) seems to be loosing his confidence and hence the way. Imran Farhat and Taufeeq Umar NEVER deserved the long run in the team they have enjoyed over the years , scoring against average attacks on batsmen friendly tracks and that too on an inconsistent basis
Future: We should stop blasting Nasir Jamshed and give him confidence and our support. I am sure he would come good provided he get a partner of equal competence and there comes the name of highly unfortunate Khurram manzoor who after performing so well for last few seasons was never given a chance despite having a solid technique and good temperament. I liked Ahmed Shahzad but he is going more in direction of Imran Nazir than becoming a player whose first glimpses we saw earlier.
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Jun 11, 2013 10:17pm
@Farjad Khan:
Lol, indeed a funny way to explain
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Jun 11, 2013 10:18pm
Lol, indeed funny way to explain
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Jun 11, 2013 10:22pm
First of all this team represent only one province. This team is good at and make good money in commercials; why bother playing cricket?
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Jun 11, 2013 10:37pm
@Farjad Khan:
sahi kaha farhad bhai.... hamare bowler bhi kisi kam ke nahi hai
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Jun 11, 2013 10:55pm
All these people who are holding the coach responsible for this disaster and asking for a batting coach should remember that you can not and should not teach a player how to bat when he is selected to play for national team. You can not change a technique overnight that is developed after playing on pathetic wickets for years. Pakistani batsmen need psychologist rather than a batting coach. Mental strength is what they lack. As soon as a little bit of pressure is applied on them, they fall like cards.
Indians have same batting technique as of Pakistanis and there is no reason why Pakistani batsmen shouldn't bat like Indian batsmen but the fact is that Indian batsmen are far more mentally stronger than us and thats THE difference.
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Jun 11, 2013 10:55pm
I fail to understand why proven non-performers are selected in the team over and over again whereas proven performers are kept out of the team:
Non-performers:
1) Malik
2) Imran Farhat
3) Kamran
Performers:
1) Abdul Razzaq (This is really annoying that he is not an automatic selection in ODI and T20...aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggg)
2) Top-five regular performers in the domestic circuit.
Even though the batting failure were visible the most but I guess also the bowlers did not perform to our usual standards. I don't think these are really the best bowlers Pakistan has. Where is that Anwar Ali guy who performed so heroically in U19 final a couple of years ago?
Other teams have boosting batting lines with couple of players averaging close or over 50. I can't believe do don't have such guys on the domestic circuit.
Where are our scouts who should visit distant parts of the country to find these guys? Are they just sitting in their air-conditioned cars and offices? Their job should be going out at least 70% of their paid!!
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Jun 11, 2013 11:04pm
The main problem is that our affairs of cricket is no diffrent then politics.. Once you come in power or get selected wether it be any position you dont want to retire till some one forecably kick you out.
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Jun 11, 2013 11:10pm
after the comprehensive defeat against south africa in pretoria, PCB should have raised alarm bells for this tour as far as batting is concerned cos bowling is always safe for PAK its the batting which time n again fails for us. remember in 1st test pak was bowled out below 50 runs and this time again absolute dismal display by our batsmen .
time to wake up finally now before the new tour or tournament starts to all my pak cricket fans;
another day another series we can defeat n win, imp. is to finally learn a lesson pak batsmen must improve or perish from the team permanently.
get farhat, malik, shafiq,kamran out permanently.
get in umar akmal in as wicket keeper as ab devilliers does for RSA, razzaq in and hammad azam as well.
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Jun 11, 2013 11:11pm
@Noor:
hillarious
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Jun 11, 2013 11:11pm
@noor
hillarious
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Jun 11, 2013 11:21pm
Dear Sir,
Losing and wining is part of the game; there is no need to overreact, okay ? Shoaib Malik is an all rounder and has played many times to finish the game for Pakistan. Kami bahi has improved his wicket keeping and vs. South Africa he got out due to a good catch, Okay!
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Jun 11, 2013 11:21pm
hi as an Indian I would like to blame Mr.Selectr Ikbal Kasim,he is the main culprit to let down his country,in what basis s.malik comes in place of Yunus khan,why why why why why Imran farhat ?????y not Shazd ahmed.If Misbah can play at the age of 39 why not MDYUSUF,Still Razzaq can play ,Haris sohail is there. Ialso partially blame to Misbah sometimes he also influence to selector for his own choice ,and as a result of these stupid things whole pak crict suppoters losing their interest for pak cricket?crickter who has ego problem, should realize they playing for their country not for his counterpart......
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Jun 11, 2013 11:30pm
@Farjad Khan:
ha, ha! at least you see humor in such dismal situations. We need to come up with a solid opener. Mohammad Hafeez is too overrated. And I don't even want to mention Kamran Akmal who I am still suspicious of...(his previous performances suggest match fixing) And Shoaib Malik needs to be dropped and go back to his old job of picking up tennis balls for his wife. I read he got his place in the team through sifarish.
We need a total overhaul of the Pakistani team.
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Jun 11, 2013 11:38pm
To all the people who have commented here I usually don't post a comment just enjoy reading them, But why don't people look at the root cause of the issue here Mr. Iqbal Qasim can anyone please tell me why is he there and for how long has he been there why don
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Jun 11, 2013 11:54pm
@Farjad Khan:
hahaaa...Nice one.
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Jun 12, 2013 12:08am
Bating our Pakistan team had been down since a very long time and their is no such stability like other team in this regard. Coaches changed many times but still problem is lying pending, no batsmen is playing it's role to stay on pitch and play a long innings for the team. They come and goes in such a fast manner that Pakistan only able to maintain a score of 150 - 200, after that bowlers have to face the difficulties. How long will this situation continue?
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Jun 12, 2013 12:20am
Hi I'm an INDIAN and fan of Pakisthan cricket too..
still accept wasim,waqar and inzi as legends -just because they proved in all surfaces ;
I see lack of democarcy in PAKISTHAN cricket the regional talents should come up naturally with their performance , the neighbouring India the batting talents are coming from all directions ; why did you send amal to south afric ( Man when is batting no way to get him out ) ; please plan in this way : best Openers ( Who can defend and score ) strong middle order, and fielding improvements else it will be a sorry state to past champions ;
as a kid i have seen fighting pakisthanis not like this team :
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Jun 12, 2013 12:42am
No Sir, we need to sack the selection committee for selection such a lackluster team. You don't try tested and failed players nor you try new blood in such an important tournament. One or two experiments are fine but not too many.
Look as Umar Amin batting average and his runs per hundred balls. Fawad Alam is a man of crisis with an average of 40 plus on all format, moreover he plays crucial knocks when the team needs them. What is the point of keeping Abdul Rahman in the team when he is never tried.
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Jun 12, 2013 12:56am
Bangladesh would have been a better choice than Pakistan for this Champions Trophy. They bat a lot better than these Pakistanis. Today Indian kicked Pakistan out of CT. :-)
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Jun 12, 2013 01:10am
With due respect to Zaheer, I feel like the batting issue is of a lot more concern than just having a batting coach for the national team. Could this be perhaps due to lack of talent now? We can't possibly use the same excuse of pitches any more because India and Srilanka have the same type of pitches but are producing better quality batting talent than Pakistan. Could this be related to the fact that no international cricket is being played in Pakistan? We all know the condition of domestic cricket in Pakistan and would rather not mention it here. Perhaps investment should be made to revitalize the domestic structure and make cricket once again attractive to the youth throughout Pakistan. Also, put significant efforts to bring International cricket back to Pakistan and bring the grounds to sub par international standards.
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Jun 12, 2013 01:58am
I have been proven right again, it is sad that a man in the street provides a correct prediction on the team's performance in an international tournament. All the retired cricketers came out with blazing guns after the defeat, before they were all quiet hiding in a corner. My prediction was based on the selection, and it was that Pakistan will not make to the next round because of their batting and not the bowlers. There is depth in talent in Pakistan, but they have not been given a chance, oldies poldies keep getting batting opportunities. The above example makes me a good candidate to be the chief selector. I also predicted the S. Africa tour result correctly based on the selection, made even before the tour started.
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Jun 12, 2013 02:10am
@Farjad Khan:
Hahahahaha.Good, now blame the Britain for our own ills and ineptness. Poor selection of players, and poor mind set about batting is the only reason. I am sure, we can still find palayers like Miandad, Saeed Anwer, Inzi, Zaheer and Amir Sohail. But, just like the politics in Pakistan, cricket has been tainted for the longest time.
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Jun 12, 2013 02:18am
Dumb selectors and politics in PCB are wasting great talents such as Razzaq and M. Yousaf. Razzaq as an all-rounder has proved himself in crucial run chase.
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Jun 12, 2013 03:07am
@Ahmer:
Isn't Misbah who kept Imran Farhat/Shoaib Malik/Asad Shafiq as batting experts rather than Ahmed Shehzad, Haris Sohail to name a few.
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Jun 12, 2013 04:32am
If you look at the basic problem, i would say law and order. The country should have no terrorist attacks..if your players don't get exposure to international level cricket.. how do you expect them to perform well at international levels?.
I think country should concentrate on getting towards zero terrorist attack, with stable govt i hope things will improve.
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Jun 12, 2013 04:47am
@Radhey Shyam: Yes Sir cause we don't "buy" our way to the cup.
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Jun 12, 2013 04:49am
@Imran:
V realistic,
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Jun 12, 2013 06:22am
Which batsmen? Aren't you ashamed of calling them batsmen . For last couple of years its Misbah 75% of the times. All others are worse than tailender of other teams. Hafeez plays due to his bowling, Farhat due to his father-in-law, Shoaib due to politicians backing, Umar Amin must also be some ones boy as he has now played 7-8 internationals and he has not played a single innings with comfort. Asad Shafiq has now played 40 matches without a century. When will they let Ahmad Shehzad, Umar Akmal, Haris Sohail, Fawad Alam and Usman Sallahudin have as many chances/matches as Farhat, Hafeez and Shoaib have got until today. And when will these PCB officials get tired of counting money and arrange some A-tours to Australia, South Africa and England. Fire these all including Miandad and bring in Majid Khan, Zaheer Abbas and Amer Sohail.
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Jun 12, 2013 06:29am
@Fahim Khan:
Have you got any better players in other provinces? If we replace these poor performers, again you will have Umar Akmal and Usman Sallhudin as the best replacements.
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Jun 12, 2013 06:50am
Can you believe that the WHOLE team is from PUNJAB that
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Jun 12, 2013 06:58am
@Fahim Khan:
100% agreed bro.....so sad deserving guys from other provinces are not getting a chance....
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Jun 12, 2013 07:01am
@Radhey Shyam:
Dont be so arrongant... India is doing well and as an indian, I feel very proud, but that doesnt mean u need make fun of other countries..I am ashamed of calling myself an indian becoz of ppl like u.
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Jun 12, 2013 07:09am
@Farjad Khan: Lol !!. I think you are spot on - but this will apply to your current line up only. do not forget the greats like Zaheer Abbaas, Javed Miandad,etc. etc. I have seen all talking about batting failure, and bowling is best in the world? then you are mistaken.. You restricted SA to 234, how do you think you are a champion lot? India today restricted WI to 233. but we call that is still not quite there, I would say even your bowling needs some direction and a clear plan and then the bowlers and Captain need to execute these plans. Dhoni is able to do all this, he uses his resources well. and that is why he gets success.
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Jun 12, 2013 07:20am
@Kay Jay:
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Jun 12, 2013 08:17am
Most of our batsmen are unable to judge the ball early enough and their batting technique is not correct. They are missing the temprament of the game of cricket. In short their basics are weak. Everyone blamed Afridi for being irresponsible but his absence has exposed the rest of them all. They are all the same. Don't expect any dependable batting performance from any of them. In my opinion the whole team should be fired after the champions trophy. I know they will let us down against India too. I am only hoping it is not going to be their worst defeat of the CT.
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Jun 12, 2013 08:30am
Should ICC not re-group the first eight top teams on the basis of their past three years performances in the tests and one days ?. I believe Bangladesh will easily replace Pakistan on the better average. Furthermore, Pakistan's status for the above tournaments be reviewed by ICC. It would also be better for Pakistan cricket.
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Jun 12, 2013 09:34am
The statement is incorrect. Let's first get batsmen then make a comparision. Shoib Malik, Imran Farhat, Hafeez and Kamran Akmal won't make into Bangladesh team.
Hafeez will make it as an all rounder. Now, beside Jamshed and Misbah... we need 4 batsman.
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Jun 12, 2013 09:37am
As an Indian, I am happy to see men in green win in all their games except against us. As a kid I used to watch Javed, Salim malik, Rameez later Anwar and Inzi. Now Pakis lost their class in batting completely. I am sorry to say but even at the age of 37 still only Mish is having average batting attitude and he is their best batsman, he is just like save the face of nation(for respectable defeat) not really Winner for Pakistan. As a cricket fan, I will suggest remove all top order batters except Jemshed(he is still young and promising). Select best batters from domestic/under19. The age should be around 20 years and with no recommendations, reason coaches can give some tips and mentor them in next 1 year. You can see amazing results on fielding too.
Pakistan may forgive the current team if they win next CCL against India but that will not solve the prob. The same show will repeat again and again. Coashes can give some tips to improve batting but only player should apply on the ground and all these big names have a confidence that no one can remove/replace them. The prob is lack of attitude and no one can change attitude of an Adult until he himself want to change and there is no hope on this current top order.
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Jun 12, 2013 09:45am
I just wanted to say below mentioned points:
1) Take Hafiz , Akmal , Shoaib Malik , Imran Farhat completly out from this team forever. They have proved them selves as complete failure in batting. You can see thier performances right from recent Indian tour. They dont have the Passion to do hardwork and make significant improvement in their batting. Pakistan is a cricket loving nation , we must have atleast Top 6 batsmen who do have Class , Passion , hardwork . We have batting legends like Miandad, Zaheer Abbas , Inzimam , our these batsmen can take advices from them ,can hire them for themseleves inorder todo well.
2) I would also like to say that , major cause of our batting failure also lies in Indian lobby which restricted different teams to visit to our country . Our Team is regurlarly playing outside pakistan , and our players faces different type of conditions on every other tour. So the consistency is missing from both players and playing condition. But this could be easily tackeled by Excellent planning and extreme hardwork along with passion from players.
3) Our PCB management also needs to be changed . Intikham alam , javed miadad , Zakir khan , what they are doing in improving cricket standards of pakistan ? They must be accountable along with failed players.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:17am
Dearest friends, First off all we have to congrat "Dave Whatemore" for getting accustomed to pak way of cricket "Hamaray rang mai rang gaiye". What a dynamic guy the gentleman was before taking pak coach assignment.
This can be termed as one of the best "Worst and Timid" performance of the Pak batting lineup (The word batting lineup doesnt suits us although).
The best can always be 2011 Semi Final VS India.
Pak cricket have proved that bowling alone in the modern day cricket CAN'T win matches, BUT, on other hand India has proved time and again that batting can. Youth is the urgent need of the day. Harris sohail, Hammad Azam, Umar Akmal, and many other dynamic youngsters should be on the PLAYING FIELD. Tried & tested horses should be watching matches on TV.Pak cricket management did just managed the opposite, No clue how they did. FEDUP of these Action Replay batting displays by PAK TEAM.
PAK Management are to be blamed, selectors to start with. PAK CRIC NEED TO COME OUT OF 80's ERA
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Jun 12, 2013 10:29am
@Durrani: The major issue is nepotism. Player selection should be on merit. Why not using the statistical data for player selection? But that will go against selection of Imran Farhats and Shoaib Maliks.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:41am
@Durrani:
I agree with your comments but there is a bigger problem and that is "selection on merit". It is not that there is no talent, talent is there but if a professional cricketer cannot afford to "bribe" or does not have any source (sifarish) then he wont be selected. Thats is the major problem or you can say root cause of the problem. I personally know so many cricketers who can bat 100 times better than these so called "Batsman" who are there in the team but they dont have money to bribe their way in. This is very sad.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:39am
@Radhey Shyam:
Correct just like Pakistan kicked India out in last CT.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:44am
@ramu.cmc@gmail.com:
That is correct my friend. Politics and ability to bribe and "contacts" in the board are the main culprit.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:46am
@Durrani:
You speaks about investments. I suggest that their should be investments on education and other basic necessities. We already got results of investing on players like Imran Farhat, Kamran akmal, and Shoaib Malik. they only perform for making their way back to the team and once they get chance to play for Pak, they show illness with bat. We have invested on David Wat.... I didn't see any plan which our team had carried out with bat. We are investing on selectors but they are showing nepotism.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:47am
Are we seriously short of talents? Plz someone name three high scoring openers and three high scoring middle order batsmen in the domestic circuit. The ones who top the list of high scorers are simply the top of mediocre. There is no competition and challenge in our domestic system. even the bowling dept is feeling the shortage. The best fast bowler in Wasim Akram's camp could not touch 145 kmh.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:53am
Umar Akmal, Afridi, Abdur Razzaq and Hammad azam are par better options than of farhat malik kamran akmal. Also we need to improve our selection committee first. Give chance to retired majors there and we can get a better team from there i think. I remember Tauqeer zia had a very good chairman of Pakistan cricket.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:52am
@Combaticus:
Boss, if we keep playing players based on their "PAST" performances then we will be keep getting these types of results. Shoaib, Kamran and Imran Farhat have past their prime and they should have been selected.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:54am
@Farjad Khan:
Brilliant and well said!
And all the great fielders went to Srilanka and all the audience went to Bangladesh. (they fill their stadiums, despite the fact they keep losing)
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Jun 12, 2013 11:20am
we have plenty of good Openers in domestic level. One of them is 16 Years old Hussain Talat. He has a bright future ahead
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/627866.html
Apart from Hussain, PCB should also consider Sharjeel Khan, Khurram Munzoor & Sami Aslam (under 19 Player) as Openers.
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Jun 12, 2013 11:33am
@Awais Tanveer:
You can't compare Pakistani batsmen with Indians Batsmen, as a Pakistani we must admit that they are far far better than us. None of our batsmen is of caliber of that of Indian Batsmen. Look Yuvraj, Sehwag , Gambir etc are still not part of the playing 11 but their batting strength is phenomenal. If you look at our current batting strength none of our batsmen are near to the calibers of Yuvraj, Sehwag &Gambir, forget comparing Pakistani batmen with current Indian playing Batsmen. They are way ahead us.
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Jun 12, 2013 11:37am
You kind people are destined to cry and lament over spilt milk. Every time 'in' and every time 'out,' the complaint is the same. Suggest solutions and seek the formation of a 'national cricket team.'
Another protruding complaint is that the PCB Constitution has not been made public. make it public so the common man can read it and point out some remedial measures.
Last evening on a local TV channel, the anchor rightly mentioned with names, the worn out and decrepit players consistently getting a place in the team.
No more stories of bad performance, please. Suggest changes and improvements. salams
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Jun 12, 2013 11:37am
After the embaressing revalations about indian cricket and corruption to the top, you will see every team performing poorly against india and Pakistan flopping. Money talks and talks loudly it seems.
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Jun 12, 2013 11:46am
I am Indian, and a fan of pak cricket..Please be patient with this team. Misbah should have more voice in the selection, he should be allowed to build his own team. its not fair on him to lead a bunch of players who are so inconsistent and wayward.
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Jun 12, 2013 12:00pm
I am surprised to read most of the comments here. Many people are finding an scapegoat in players but in my expert opinion the real problem lies in lack of mental preparation. It is about time to treat cricket like a science. I have been involved with training & cognitive research for more than 20 years. I would like to highlight a high-level summary of few recommendations and if PCB is interested in learning more about my recommendations, they may contact me at ytom255@gmail.com
Recommended Strategies:
a) Mental toughness
b) Cricket Science
c) Permanent Form
d) Simulated practices
Every sports psychologist will tell you that athlete
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Jun 12, 2013 12:49pm
Terrible batting display is down to Imran farhat, Shoib malik, Kamran akmal, m hafeez. They should never be in the side, too many players are picked on corrupt system, whats happened to the best academy in cricket. I will not follow Pakistan cricket anymore as the players are picked on connections and not talent, when are we going to speak out and sack our selectors. We need to select a complete new batting line with a younger reformist captain and let them lose for 12 months but at least they will get better.
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Jun 12, 2013 12:54pm
Sifarshi appointments.
Before Champions Trophy.
"Saade munde nu khadao.. Allah ne chaha te changa khedega"
After Champions Trophy.
"Allah di marzi nahi si.. saada munda ki kare?"
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Jun 12, 2013 01:01pm
@Radhey Shyam:
Yea but we still beat India in India..please dont forget the 'Aaney Do' Campaign. Or is that memory not as fresh ?
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Jun 12, 2013 01:15pm
@MO: Oh it is very fresh, that was disappointing from an Indian standpoint. Just that Indians are probably ready to instill an even fresher memory this Saturday :-)
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Jun 12, 2013 01:34pm
The main issue of Pakistan's defeat is that we think that induction of fast & furious
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Jun 12, 2013 03:00pm
It seems most of our current players lack mental strength and confidence in their ability to perform. They go out on the field without serious planning and strategy it seems, and do not have basic guts to adjust to the situation. Those at the helm of team selection are basically responsible for such a debacle. Selection of players must be exclusively on performance and merit. Otherwise cricket fans in Pakistan and abroad shall continue to watch their time playing disappointingly if immediate corrective steps are not taken by the authorities concerned by appointing only reputed former Pakistani cricketers who are respected, liked and loved by the nation because of their tremendous professional performances.
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Jun 12, 2013 02:59pm
@Farjad Khan:
This 1 is awsone bro!
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Jun 12, 2013 03:38pm
I have read all the comments "THANK YOU." In two words.1. The players only play for "MONEY." 2. Millions of potential and spirited talent wasted because of wrong selection policies. No one neither the selectors, nor the players, or the board represent PAKISTAN. Thank You Again.
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Jun 12, 2013 04:39pm
@Akil akhtar: Are you saying every lost to India because they took the bribe? Get real, we Pakistani's should stop obsessing over India. India is much bigger than us and we should start working with them. The Brits divided us and we both have more in common than we care to admit..
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Jun 12, 2013 05:08pm
all the batsmen in the pakistan side's thrown out from the side
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Jun 12, 2013 08:13pm
Having followed pakistan cricket for 20 odd years, it is evident pakistan focused lies on having bowling coached and having a proper bowling coach which you need, no doubt. but more serious issue is our batting, in era of wasim akram, he had bowling all rounders in the team up to 9 or 10. now after 6/7 its all over. shahid afridi is a useless batsmen but what he brought in the team was energy, passion and thats what helped pakistan reaching semis in last world cup. pakistan opener, last recognised decent opener pakistan had was Saeed Anwar. none of the top order batsmen are hungry for runs, in comparison to India, their batsmen do everything to stick around and play long innings. if you don't enjoy batting then why are you in the team?
quite simply pakistan need more test cricket, and need to play more test cricket world wide in all conditions. batsmen technique will only improve from playing test cricket or this disaster will continue.
look at pakistan batting averages against indians, shockingly embarassing. find a decent wicket keeper batsmen, not one but 2, healty competition will keep both at bay, thats how moin khan and rashid latif were successful.
the new transition needs to start now, groom players for the next world cup. players that have failted consistatnly should look at themselves in the mirror and ask "am I good enough to play for pakistan? should i make way to give somebody else a decent chance in pak success"? and if they still don't leave, just sack them! we dont need ordinary batsmen who will bat well 1 out of 10 matches, need better than that. like Amla type!
Short term pain, long term gain.
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Jun 13, 2013 09:26pm
Pakistan team's performance will improve when the team is selected on merit, as plain as that:)
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Jun 14, 2013 04:25am
Hi all
I think we as Pakistan supporters need to start a petition and hand it to PCB, to take steps in improving its selection policy based on marit and nurture real talent rather than going back to failed players.
Better selectors, coaches and management. If you agree than tick the thumbs up and support our voice for change.
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