REFERENCE the articles, ‘Pakistan and India-China war’ (Oct 21); ‘India chafes over defeat 50 years after war with China’ by Rupam J. Nair (Oct. 20) and ‘India must seek honourable reconciliation with China’ by Praful Bidwai (Oct 16), the last two being Indian commentators.

The Dawn article has done a good job by showing how not only Pakistan but China has also benefited from their ties. Mr Bidwai has admirably tried to foster détente between New Delhi and Beijing by saying: “The real lesson from 1962 is that India must seek honourable reconciliation with China. The way forward lies in the Chinese-proposed ‘package deal’ on the border, not hubristic claims about whether India could have won the war or can still avenge its defeat.

In contrast, Mr Nair has quoted an Indian academic as saying that a sense of insecurity dominates the (Sino-India) equation.

Further, that “India will never forget the war nor can it forgive China for advancing so far into its territory”.

India should consider realistically the ground realities. China is ethnically and socially far more cohesive, whereas India is riddled by internal problems. There are about a dozen insurgencies going on for decades and at least the Naxalite one could prove its undoing. It ought to heed the Chinese proverb: “When the heron and the oyster seize each other, the fisherman reaps the benefit’. The lesson for the US, which had hastened to help India in 1962, is it couldn’t keep China from growing economically, displomatically or militarily during its cold war policies. Add to this the interdependence they now have on each other, and it’s clear Washington would be wise to forge good ties with Beijing also.

America must avoid getting militarily involved overseas. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan should be lessons enough. “Let everyone sweep away the snow from his own door, and not meddle with the hoarfrost on his neighbour’s tiles” (Chinese saying).

As far as our Chinese friends are concerned, that, too, will gain from working collectively with countries far and near. All nations whether, big or small, who are involved in disputes will profit from heeding the Scottish adage: “He is wise who can make a friend of a foe.”

KHALID CHAUDHRY             Karachi


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taranveer singh
November 6, 2012 8:31 pm
India has economy 9 times of pak s economy. China has economy 3.5 time of India s economy. pak is like a child who always look for child who has more chocolates among all children. it cant buy chocolates from shop.
vjjjjjjjjjjj
November 6, 2012 6:17 pm
loosing a piece of land after a war is less betrayal to the country and its citizens than just ceding it.
idolworshipper1@gmail.com
November 6, 2012 11:07 am
This century belongs to Asia and both India and China have a great role to play in it. War between these two nuclear power countries is remotest possibility now. War will only bring destruction to India and China. War will help only enemies and false opportunist friend countries. Business between India and China is many times more than total trade of many countries. Both the countries are not fools and are trying their best to improve education, health and infrastructure. It is not 1962 now, time has changed and priorities have changed. No doubt China has shown more efficiency in many fields and they really worth praise for that. World is praising them and in many fields now totally depends on them. India and China can learn a lot from each other and will bring the glory Asia enjoyed in past with peace before this hatred which is spread all over world. There is no grouping going on as countries, it is just the invention of media and haters who are not happy with development of human race and peace. Go India. Go China. Grab the world and show that peace and economic prosperity is the real way not blood and war.
Madhur
November 6, 2012 6:42 am
Dear Mr Abdus Salam Khan 1 Tibet was never part of India nor India does have any ambition over Tibet like pakistan have over Kashmir .so there is no question of loosing tibet to china 2 Lot have changed over in last 50 years , primary focus of India & China is economic development not territorial gain 3 We do not get carried away by our friendship with America like Pakistan has with China . Not friendship in the world is higher than Himalaya , every country looks for its interest .. We understand US is getting closer to us because of its own interest and we do not want America to use us against China despite 1962 debacle . We will have relationship with both the countries China & US on our own terms (Economic terms) and not on basis of becoming frontline state and fighting for some body else war ang getting paid for it Madhur
Rattan(Sydney)
November 6, 2012 2:48 am
"New best friend" that says it all.Grow up and get out of your madrassa thinking.
Ravindra sanap
November 6, 2012 2:34 am
There is a billion dollar busines between india and china.Forget that there will be any war between these two great economies.Pakistan is living in a fools paradise.
Anony
November 5, 2012 11:58 pm
Well said. The only way to move forward is peace and reconciliation.
Anony
November 5, 2012 11:57 pm
Excellent article Sir.
vjjjjjjjjjjj
November 5, 2012 11:36 pm
"China is ethnically and socially far more cohesive"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just because you dont get to hear any negative news about China doesnt mean China is heaven. . Hope you know that media is not free to operate in China, and international media gets only that news news which Chinese wants us to hear.
Does not matter
November 5, 2012 11:01 pm
By name you do sound one from India but may be too naive. Before India-China war, there were songs of hindi-Chini bha bhai but Chinese betrayed India. On the other hand India and Pakistan were never friendly and had 2 wars before 1971. On top of that Pakistani army was busy killing bangladeshis who took refuge in India which was not capable of supporting to many of them. India had to intervene. There was no such situation between India and China so your comparison is totally out of place. Now lets come to relation between Indo-US and China-Pakistan. I am shocked to see that you see a similarity. China is just using Pakistan as a tool to prick India. Pakistan does not hold any other value other than their position with India. Indo-US ties are not just for trade but security and regional strategy and US needs India to bring up their economy up.
Sauron
November 5, 2012 10:42 pm
Nehru paid a big price for short -sighted policies and war strategies.. much like Pakistan did in 1971.
Silajit
November 5, 2012 10:31 pm
Firstly I agree that China is stronger than India and it is in India should avoid having to box above its weight category (this may be something Pakistan should think of as well in regard to India.) However the bit about China being more cohesive - while it may be true, there is no way to know. An open society and government like India is DESIGNED to expose sunlight to its dirtiest parts. A closed society like China is DESIGNED to hide those.
Md Imran
November 5, 2012 9:48 pm
Heshan, i agree ! The day is not far when Pakistan and China will together form one country. With our talent and Chinese worth ethics, we'll be the greatest country on earth , inshaallah ! Our friendship with China is sweeter than honey, taller than mountains and deeper than oceans !
fgfhnhhj
November 5, 2012 8:14 pm
Let me re-phrase - Pakistan is China's new vamp in the region. The only relationship which lives long is the financial relationship. So this relationship will live as long as it is financially beneficial.
Kalyan
November 5, 2012 5:01 pm
"China is ethnically and socially far more cohesive, whereas India is riddled by internal problems". India celebrates diversity unlike China that favors conformity. Diversity has its own challenges but that is what defines a democracy and defines India.
KharaSach
November 5, 2012 1:37 pm
Friend that never helped Pakistan in the time of need. Remember 71.
Rao
November 5, 2012 1:36 pm
I agree with you. It is time to sing "Paki-Cini, bhai-bhai" song as Indians did in late 50s . They sang , Hindi-Chini bhai, bhai. Then came the Chinese dagger at their back.
Abdus Salam Khan
November 5, 2012 11:55 am
As the saying goes: There is always a Moses for every Pharaoh! After Nehru's Pharaoh-like land grabs in Hyderabad and Junagarh, euphemistically called Police Actions, the following couplet so aptly described how fate turned the tables on him: Dilli agar janaa hoe, kehna zara Nehru say, Tibet mein Police Action kaysa nazar awta hai" " If you happen to visit Delhi, pray tell Mr.Nehru, How do you take the (Chinese) Police Action in Tibet"
vivek
November 5, 2012 9:15 am
Again a delusionised mindset.As you mentioned China more cohesive in terms of ethinicity and social integrity, did you look upon the fact that their system is far more repressive?Any democratic movement or popular voice will be crushed in China.Also Naxalite movement is rapidly declining in India (Chek latst data) and could not undo a single inch in last 60 years.In fact despite of an allout campaign by Pakistan and China,India became more powerful in terms of economy and military today. And now come to your logic i.e. America couldnot stop China's development,Did China stop India's development? If India grows by 6-8% annually and increases its military, can anyone stop her to acheive it?On other side Pakistan is going in deep abyss of economic failure, intolerance,insurgencies,Taliban and bad inernational image your best freind China can not do any thing to prevent her.Conclusion: A nation can develop only if it starve to acheive itself, not by following some "deeper than sea, higher than Himalayas" cacophony.
Garib Manus
November 5, 2012 8:37 am
There are several questionable statements in this letter. 1) By no stretch of imagination (but for perhaps the author's wishful thinking), the "Naxal problem will prove to be India's undoing". 2) Mr. Bidwai is a leftist journalist with little or no credibility (In July 2011, United States authorities confirmed that Bidwai supported and attended many Pakistani ISI funded anti-India events in the United States hosted by illegal Pakistani lobbyist Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, who has since been arrested [sourced from wikipedia]) 3) The Indian soldiers who fought the Chinese aggression, the generals, and the political leaders of the time are all gone. The new generation has hardly any understanding of the said aggression--hence, the notion of "respectable reconciliation" will not resonate with them. 4) While India clearly sees an advantage in trade with China, it is also anticipates, and is prepared for the eventuality of a dispute that may translate into a military face-off. 5) While China views Pakistan as a willing and eager instrument of its local politics, India with its non-aligned past (which still lingers on) is too big and independent to be willing to play the same role with regard to the US strategy. 6) Japan, which had historically ignored India, now wants India's attention for its regional policies and conflicts with China. Therefore, India can and will string together a potent coalition of regional nations meet its strategic goals.
IndianHindu
November 5, 2012 7:35 am
"China is ethnically and socially far more cohesive, whereas India is riddled by internal problems." And this is not surprising to me that u have found China even with its problems in Tibet and Xinjiang to be cohesive than India. Perhaps monks committing suicides to protest Chinese rule is not of concern to u. And as far as China is concerned w.r.t its relations with neighbors, please see that it has problems with almost all its neighbors from Japan to Vietnam. So china being a role model is quite laughable. And lastly perhaps u should Pakistan advice to follow the suggestions u made above, Since Pakistan has problems every neighbor it has and is already the world terror university.
Heshan
November 5, 2012 7:31 am
China is Pakistanis new best friend. Long live this friendship
Abhishek
November 5, 2012 5:29 am
Status of India against china is similar to status of Pakistan against India. What China did to India is what India did to Pakistan in 71. Ties between Pakistan and china is same as the between the ties between India and US(to encircle their main enemies). Pakistan is entangled with so many internal conflicts as India is. So lesson is for both the countries to stop biging themselves up rather get engaged in constructive politics. Thanks